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The WP Blogging Time Warp May 9, 2012

Posted by nrhatch in Blogging, Music & Dance.
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Ever since WP changed the default setting on the comment box (to encourage people to subscribe to ALL comment threads) . . . I’ve been experiencing a Blogging Time Warp.

I write a post.  Someone comments.  I see the comment ON the post itself and respond to it.

Twenty-four hours later (plus or minus), the comment travels through the WP Blogging Time Warp and arrives in my In-Box.

Déjà vu!

Wikipedia ~ Traffic Congestion (in Public Domain)

I expect that the change made by WP has caused any number of “Comment Jams” in cyber-space.

Comment Jams, like log jams and traffic jams, result when too many objects following the same path or trajectory arrive at the same place at the same time and end up going nowhere fast.

Maybe WP needs to rethink their decision to change the default setting.

What say you?  

Aah . . . that’s better! 

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Comments

1. Pocket Perspectives - May 9, 2012

hahahahaaa….. Marie calls it “loco subscriptions”…. 🙄 Nancy….come on over to the “uh oh…loco subscriptions” thread…we’ve decided it’s a bit like paying too much attention to our own thoughts in our minds…and dropping our own “loco subscriptions” to our own thoughts theads … : )
http://pocketperspectives.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/loco-subscription-wordpress-follow-up-comments-checkbox-uh-oh/ And I THOUGHT I had unsubscribed to comments threads…but turns out it’s more complicated than I realized!…loco, indeed…. 🙄

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

That’s PERFECT . . . I was just commenting on YOUR post and adding a link to it on MY post. 😀

Pocket Perspectives - May 9, 2012

funny cross posting…..and, I FORGOT, AGAIN, ( !!?!?!?!) to uncheck that followup comments box….and Nancy…you get A LOT of comments…. : ) ( But it is interesting to read other bloggers reactions to this, too… ) I wonder if WP is getting feedback? I FINALLY found the additional unsubscribe connection in the email notification…well, maybe I’m at least growing a few new brain/neuron pathway connections?????
And Nancy, I’m looking right at that check box, right below where I’m typing…I remembered it!…BUT…it won’t let me “uncheck” it…. : ) ….

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

I find that the easiest way to avoid unwanted mails is to unsubscribe at:

Dashboard -> Blogs I Follow -> Comments.

2. suzicate - May 9, 2012

Yes, this is driving me crazy….so many emails to weed through now! I actually have one blog subscription that is a private domain and no matter if you check to unsubscribe to comments,,,you get subscribed anyway. However, it does send you an email to verify it, so if you delete it you don’t get all the followups….too bad wordpress didn’t add that feature. As I am writing this comment I notice the box is not automatically checked…maybe they’ve reconsidered after a lot of complaints?

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Let’s hope so, Suzi. I often click the box (to see what others have to say about topics of interest), so I didn’t mind the change . . . at first.

But I don’t think that WP has the infrastructure to support the increase in e-mails the change has generated. Hence, the Comment Jams.

BTW: If comments on a particular post are no longer welcome in your In Box, you can unsubscribe at Dashboard -> Blogs I Follow -> Comments.

suzicate - May 9, 2012

Thanks, I didn’t realize there is a box on there to monitor my comments on other blogs…
I do go back and check replies on some but not ALL!

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Whenever I learn about a setting option on WP, it makes me wonder about all the things I have yet to learn.

3. jannatwrites - May 9, 2012

Oh my goodness, it’s driving me NUTS! (True, it’s not a long trip, but it’s a painful one, anyway.) I thought I accidentally messed up a setting somewhere and I’ve been trying to figure out where it is for days. Since I’ve been blogging for over two years and I’m not in the habit of checking the comments subscription box, I end up with a cluttered In box and have to log back in and un-subscribe to the comments on my subscription page. What a pain! They really do need to change it back!

I guess we’ll see if this old dog can be trained or if I’ll have to keep manually unfollowing comments.

P.S. I remembered to uncheck the notify box on this comment, so maybe there is hope for me after all 🙂

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

I like to pick and choose when to subscribe to comment threads and would prefer NOT to be subscribed automatically . . . especially since it seems to be slowing down receipt of comment notifications I WANT to receive.

if someone posts a photo and I say, “That’s lovely,” I don’t really need to follow that post past that point. 😀

4. terry1954 - May 9, 2012

feeling the same way here. some days i hate to open my emails and see the high numbers

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

I have yet to see anyone say that the change has any merit or redeeming value. 😉

5. Carl D'Agostino - May 9, 2012

It has messed me up too. I have to repeatedly log in to get to other blogs and or comment comment and same to get into my blog while other blogs receive my comment without all the obstacles.

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

The change has NOT increased happiness in the blogosphere.

Instead of encouraging people to follow comment threads (to keep the conversation going), it’s going to have the opposite effect . . . with everyone afraid to comment at all for fear that their In Boxes will explode (or implode) from increased traffic.

6. sweetdaysundertheoaks - May 9, 2012

I didn’t appreciate the change and still don’t. Today I was hoping WP had changed their thinking but I see to leave this comment I will have to untick the check. I went to my settings, discussion and removed the option all together. You have to uncheck and then refresh. I know there are some people who follow the comments for a post but there are more that aren’t thrilled with seeing all the comments of my commenters in my post in their inbox. So for now I will leave the option off.

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

On most of my posts, I am interested in generating a discussion, so I won’t be removing the ability of visitors to post comments on SLTW. It’s easy enough for others to click “unsubscribe” if they don’t want to join in the conversation.

sweetdaysundertheoaks - May 9, 2012

Nancy I didn’t remove the ability to post comments at my blog I just removed the box that you have to remember to untick so as not to receive all the comments from other commenters on a post I comment on. I want people to comment and wouldn’t close comments! I might not be clear 😀 Please if I am not clear on this and you have time let me know.

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Gotcha. The brain glitch was on my end . . . not yours. 😉

7. sweetdaysundertheoaks - May 9, 2012

It seems that once I untick the check like I did here that it stays unticked! I am checking the link up in comment #1 🙂 Tita Bud explained it better than I could~http://titabuds.com/2012/05/07/a-flood-of-emails/

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Thanks, Pix. Change is good . . . but only some times. 😉

8. Sandra Bell Kirchman - May 9, 2012

I have usually ticked the box for emails on new comments in any thread I have commented in. This is prior to the change by WP. So I don’t see much of a difference. No wonder I have so many emails in my in-box. However, since my time constraints have slowed me down on commenting, I don’t get as many emails as I used to.

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

What has changed for me is the speed at which I am notified of comments ~ both here and elsewhere.

Some come through in short order. Others dilly dally around in cyberspace for 24 hours (or more!).

9. Booksphotographsandartwork - May 9, 2012

I say I hate it. I have to open 20 emails to see which one is the new blog post.

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Really? In my e-mails, it either says [new post] or [new comment] next to the title.

10. cuhome - May 9, 2012

Unh huh! I routinely uncheck that “notify me of follow-up comments via email” box. It’s pared down my email box greatly!!!

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

I expect that people are more cognizant of that little box now. 😀

11. souldipper - May 9, 2012

I just shared a solution on my blog that is working for me. Don’t know it will deter anything else, but so far (3 days) it’s worked okay.

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Your solution won’t work for me since I WANT to receive “new post” notifications from blogs I’m subscribed to.

If comments on a particular post are not welcome in my In Box, I just unsubscribe at Dashboard -> Blogs I Follow -> Comments.

12. kateshrewsday - May 9, 2012

I say, YES! But WordPress’s langour in correcting this fiasco leads me to suspect that there may be something in it for them if the extra e mails continue to fly…

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Maybe they are getting financial recompense for every e-mail flying through cyber-space to land in our mail boxes.

If so, their “cash cow” is starting to dry up because people are blocking ALL e-mail from WP and others are removing the ability of visitors to subscribe to comment threads.

kateshrewsday - May 9, 2012

Indeed. I am off to do the same.

13. Carl D'Agostino - May 9, 2012

cash cow – I’d gladly pay a few bucks a month to help keep this network I have built going. (emphasis on “few” , however).

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

WP is providing a FREE blogging platform to us, so I’m not going to complain about any changes they choose to announce and then implement.

But the lack of communication about pending changes irks me.

14. sufilight - May 9, 2012

The loco subscriptions is weird! If I forget to unsubscribe to comments, even after I go to the dashboard to unsubscribe, I still get the occasional comment; I wonder if it’s a time warp one. Getting subscribed to comments clutters the mailbox. I prefer to get blog announcements. Kathy and I had fun last night with this. 🙂

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

I expect that those “belated comments” did get stuck in the time warp before arriving at your door.

You and Kathy looked like you were having a BLAST! 😀

15. Patricia - May 9, 2012

It is all confuzzling me. I liked it when I commented on a blog and the blogger replied I would get a notification so I would know–not an email but a notice from WP on WP. That doesn’t happen anymore, or not usually, sometimes a rare notification will pop up. And I don’t want anymore email than what I have without WP.

Maybe I am just getting cranky and set in my ways…

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Confuzzling is the right word, Patricia! Some changes are not for the better . . . both here and on FB.

16. Three Well Beings - May 9, 2012

I think it may be less of a problem for me now, Nancy, as long as I remember to click the little box! Thanks for linking to my post on the topic, and of course I linked to Chicago John. I have really enjoyed having such a broad conversation about our mutual traffic jam! 🙂 Debra

nrhatch - May 9, 2012

Remembering to “uncheck” the box is becoming 2nd nature, proving that “old bloggers” can learn new tricks. 😉

17. ryoko861 - May 9, 2012

OMG, I thought it was just me, that I toggled something! It is THE most ANNOYING thing! You get notifications of a response to your comment as well as any other activity on WP by the little number next to your name in the upper right hand corner! I don’t need a bloody email! So now I have to remember to uncheck the box and make sure I delete comment subscriptions. I guess they didn’t like Facebook getting all the attention!

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

I have yet to bump into a fan of these changes. In response, some have turned off ALL e-mail notifications from ALL blogs to avoid the deluge.

Clearly NOT what WP had hoped would happen.

ryoko861 - May 11, 2012

I’ve already ranted on Twitter about it. I’m sure WP is swamped with disgruntled bloggers!

nrhatch - May 11, 2012

And still, all I hear is . . . SILENCE from the Happiness Engineers.

ryoko861 - May 11, 2012

Give them time, they’ll get their arses in gear and do something about it when people start leaving.

nrhatch - May 11, 2012

Or when the comments start to dry up . . . leaving parched cracked earth behind.

18. Paula Tohline Calhoun - May 9, 2012

I am rather miffed, but since the e-mail addy that they come to has become sort of my “junk” address, it has not interfered too much – but it was a particularly foolish and redundant move on wp’s part. We can already check if we have any comments/replies by looking at the “comments I’ve made” on the dashboard. It also bothers me that they did not make this new feature an “option,” but it has become built-in and one has to go through quite a maneuver to get rid of it! I cannot figure out exactly why they decided to do such a thing. . .I am sending an e-mail to wp with my concerns stated. perhaps it can be rescinded, as to date I have not heard or read a single positive comment about it!

Amy, of Soul Dipper, has a great post about it today! Check it out if you haven’t already.

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

I did. But I don’t want to turn off ALL e-mail notifications because I like receiving [new post] notifications. I also enjoy subscribing to comment threads on posts which have engendered lively debate and discussion.

19. Jas - May 10, 2012

Its annoying and irritating… wordpress is making decisions on my part and I don’t like it…

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

It’s an odd change . . . one I’m sure WP knew would not be “a hit” with most commenters. Maybe they’ll re-think it.

20. barb19 - May 10, 2012

Yup, it’s driving me crazy; I keep forgetting to un-check the box. It would be better if WP left it blank by default.

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

I agree, Barb. I want it available to check, or not. . . not forced down everyone’s throat as if we were geese on the foie gras production line.

21. Victoria-writes - May 10, 2012

Confusing, I don’t like it when they change on us like this!

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

You and one million other WP users and visitors.

22. spilledinkguy - May 10, 2012

AGREED!
I’m so inundated with e-mails my already cluttered mind can’t unclutter all that… um… clutter. Yet I somehow manage to forget about it when I’m leaving a comment… YIKES!

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

I am remembering more and more often to “uncheck” the box. But I’m still noticing a bit of a time warp in receipt of e-mail notifications when I am subscribed.

Still too much cyber traffic on the WP infrastructure.

23. Piglet in Portugal - May 10, 2012

I was quite happy with the orange do da on my wordpress toolbar. I knew when a blogger had responded to a comment I’d left on their blog without receiving 20,000 email (OK, I exagerate, but it just feels like that!) Now I just need to remmeber to unsubcribe to comments 🙂 on this post

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

I’m starting to get the hang of unchecking the box if I don’t want to subscribe to the thread. But I still don’t see the point of having to take that type of “defensive” action.

Piglet in Portugal - May 11, 2012

I think I may well put a note at the end of each blog to remind people. I really don’t know why WP had to change this system. It was the same when they changed the subscribe method and then changed it back again. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

nrhatch - May 11, 2012

I’m just glad I’m not paying for the privilege of adapting to unneeded changes. 😀

24. pix & kardz - May 10, 2012

i too think the default should be a blank ‘notify me of follow-up comments’, and not a checked one. but i am starting to remember – by checking it first, and then commenting 🙂

pix & kardz - May 10, 2012

rather – by unchecking it first 😀
and i didn’t uncheck it, but it seems to have remembered my comment above, and uses that as a default. so that is one good thing!

pix & kardz - May 10, 2012

oops!! i mean – i didn’t uncheck it for the second comment, as it was already unchecked. and same thing for this third one. i did not uncheck it, and there it is again.
 
and my apologies for filling your inbox, LOL, with all this talk that is intended to keep our inboxes emptier 😀

pix & kardz - May 10, 2012

LOL – i mean – there it is absent again. so for the record, ever since i unchecked the box for the first comment, subsequent comments i have been making, already have it unchecked.
 
and do please feel free to delete all these additional comments. typing just way too fast 😀

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

LOL, Kris.

I may tidy up this thread tomorrow . . . but for the moment is shows why WP needs to re-think (or think for the very 1st time) about its decision to have “subscribe” as the default.

Let people who WANT to subscribe have the option available, but don’t insist that we “eavesdrop” on other people’s comments.

25. Karen - May 10, 2012

Betchya their ‘thinking’ went along these lines: “Folks say they want more conversation on their blogs, so we’ll make ‘Subscribed to all comments’ the default, and people will be *brought back* when anyone else says anything, too.”

Me, I’m with you-all – anytime somebody “New-and-Improve” ‘s something which means I have to constantly remember another click or secret menu location, my poor, dear ADD-ish brain (not to mention my Inbox) gets overloaded! Grrrrr!

nrhatch - May 10, 2012

I expect your reasoning is right. If so, it’s backfired because some people are blocking ALL e-mail notifications from WP and others are removing the comment subscription button entirely so NO ONE can follow comment threads on their blogs.

WP should have left well enough alone.

26. Perfecting Motherhood - May 10, 2012

The thing is, there used to be a box you could check to get comments. Now the box is gone and WP is forcing you to get follow-up comments, whether you want them or not. It’s silly because you can already see the blogger’s response in the top nav bar and you can go back to the post to read other people’s comments.

I hate situations where I don’t have a choice, where things are forced down my throat. I need to figure out how to combine to WP because I don’t want to have to unsubscribe to each comment thread every time I leave a comment somewhere. My inbox will get sick of it!

nrhatch - May 11, 2012

Some bloggers have removed the comment subscription box to save their visitors from an unintentional avalanche of e-mails.

Most blogs still have the box (it becomes visible only after you’ve indicated you plan to comment) . . . and the default is still “notify me of comments via email.”

Perfecting Motherhood - May 11, 2012

The problem is, is that box isn’t there, you get the email avalanche, so I wish all bloggers showed the box so I can uncheck it.

nrhatch - May 11, 2012

Really? I thought if the box wasn’t there that NO ONE would receive follow up comments.

I expect that the number of comments on WP is going to dwindle to a trickle as a result of this change in default settings.

Perfecting Motherhood - May 12, 2012

By the way, I have both my blogs set up to show the follow comments checkbox and since WP made their idiotic change, they don’t display that box anymore, even though the settings are still the same. Whatever they did, it’s not even compatible with my blog templates…

nrhatch - May 12, 2012

The box is there on your blog, Milka. I just clicked on the “Leave A Reply” box, and the “notify me of follow up comments” box appeared. It’s not there UNTIL someone starts to leave a comment.

27. Karen - May 11, 2012

I know (hope?) that this is still in a ‘state of flux’ on WP’s end ~
I’d really like to see, at the very least, a way to VERY EASILY “Unsubscribe” ( and, maybe, “Subscribe without commenting”?) to a given comment thread *at that thread*, like right at the bottom, here.
Sometimes, when a thread is active and top-of-mind, I don’t mind knowing what everybody has to say, but eventually, activity tapers off, interest flags, and I want room in my brain cells for something else.

When a conversation deteriorates, I wanna be able to ‘move on’ without making my brain hurt! 🙂

nrhatch - May 11, 2012

That sounds like my approach, Karen. I often subscribe to comment threads on interesting posts which involve lively debate and commentary.

At some point, I lose interest and “unsubscribe” via the dashboard. That approach has worked for me for 2+ years. But I’d rather the default setting be an “unchecked box” that I can check IF I want to follow the comment thread.

nrhatch - May 16, 2012

It is now very easy to change the default setting:
https://nrhatch.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/disabling-the-default-comment-setting/

28. bluebee - May 12, 2012

It is utterly infuriating – I don’t understand why WP would do something that is so user-UNfriendly!

nrhatch - May 12, 2012

I’ve started noticing that some blogs do NOT have the box checked. Maybe they are switching it back?

nrhatch - May 16, 2012

They are NOT switching back, but they have provided a fix:
https://nrhatch.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/disabling-the-default-comment-setting/

29. Karen - May 12, 2012

It’d probably be far better to be ‘proactive’ w/ WP, and send a note directly to them, instead of “bitching with the choir” here, or in the no-doubt-many-other places where folks are muttering to themselves about this!

I don’t have the time to dig up a “let us know what you think” addy for WP right now, but if someone has it/ finds it, please share, here!

nrhatch - May 12, 2012

You’re right, Karen . . . but several people indicated they did write WP directly, with no response back.

If you want to contact WP, the e-mail: support@wordpress.com

Good Luck!

nrhatch - May 12, 2012

I just checked the Forums. Here’s what WP had to say:

The reported behavior of email notification for comments is not a bug. It is a new default setting when commenting.

This feature was a recent change to the way comments work on all WordPress.com blogs.

Once you click in the Leave a Reply comment box, you will see the “Notify me of follow-up comments via email” check box appear. Simply un-check this box before you submit your comment and you will not receive email notifications.

If you ever forget to un-check the box you can always unsubscribe here:
https://subscribe.wordpress.com/

http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/stop-email-notifications-for-comments-on-other-peoples-blogs/page/3?replies=119#post-880210

To read more on the forum:

http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/stop-email-notifications-for-comments-on-other-peoples-blogs/page/5?replies=123

Karen - May 12, 2012

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! {{nancy}}

nrhatch - May 12, 2012

You’re welcome. 🙂

nrhatch - May 16, 2012
30. Stephanie - May 12, 2012

Dear WordPress,

Please updo the check! You’re drowning my inbox! Anyway, going to follow that link labove and potentially that will rescue my inblox from the deep blue sea. Quite irritating though.

nrhatch - May 12, 2012

Good luck, Stephanie. I haven’t bumped into many fans of the forced change of default.

nrhatch - May 16, 2012
31. eof737 - May 13, 2012

Yea, that was a shocker until I reached out to support and was told how to fix it… Oy vey! 🙂

nrhatch - May 13, 2012

I’ve noticed a few blogs no longer have the box checked as the default . . . maybe WP is reconsidering its decision.

eof737 - May 13, 2012

Hope so!

nrhatch - May 16, 2012

Well, WP made the change permanent . . . but they gave us a QUICK FIX:

https://nrhatch.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/disabling-the-default-comment-setting/


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