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A History Mystery August 31, 2010

Posted by nrhatch in Magick & Mystery, People.

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846, and elected President in 1860.

John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946, and elected President in 1960.

Both changed the course of civil rights.

Both had a child die while living in the White House.  Both were shot in the head on a Friday (with their wives present).  Lincoln was shot at the Ford Theatre.  Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln (made by Ford).

Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.

Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

 But wait . . .

There’s more . . .

Both assassins were Southerners, known by three names (of fifteen letters total), and neither stood trial:

John Wilkes Booth, Lincoln’s assassin, ran from a theatre and was caught in a warehouse (tobacco shed).

Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy, then  ran from a warehouse (book depository) to hide in a theatre.

Both Booth and Oswald were killed before trial.

Related article:  Linkin’ Kennedy (snopes.com)

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Inspiration:  e-mail from unknown author


1. Agatha82 - August 31, 2010

I remember this from years ago…can’t even remember where I read it but it was back in the 80s. Weird indeed…(of course, there’s the theory that Oswald was just a puppet and not the real killer but who knows…)

nrhatch - August 31, 2010

The original had much more stuff in it, including some things that were incorrect:

Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln ~ true
Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy ~ not true

The related article goes into detail about the original.

2. aardvarkian - August 31, 2010

It’s the CIA, I tell ya!! They got their spooks everywhere.

*runs in search of a conspiracy theory*

nrhatch - August 31, 2010

It was “convenient” for many that Kennedy got shot . . .

Oswald being able to make the shot from where he was . . . a long shot indeed.

And then there’s the grassy knoll . . .

Greg Camp - August 31, 2010

Actually, the shot was from eighty some yards away at a target moving down a slight slope–in other words, a relatively easy shot, especially for a qualified U. S. Marine rifleman.

The Snopes article listed at the end of your piece makes a good argument that these coincidences are exactly the kind of thing that one can find in any pair of events if we look hard enough. They’re the result of using similar names for persons, a common alphabet, and a ten-digit number system.

nrhatch - August 31, 2010

That’s why I included the snopes article.

It makes a good case against reading anything more into these events than meets the eye.

But still . . . ; )

3. Naomi - August 31, 2010

Sends chills down the spine.

nrhatch - August 31, 2010

No goosebumps here . . .

I find the parallels interesting to compare
But not compelling enough to scare

I should have posted a song with this:

“I got chills, they’re multiplying, it’s electrifying.” ; )

4. booksphotographsandartwork - August 31, 2010

i say its a mystery for monk! very interesting parallels indeed. i do remember hearing it before. if only we knew whatever there is too know…

nrhatch - August 31, 2010

I deleted all the false information, and still felt it was worth sharing.

Snopes is right … standing alone, each coincidence is rather insignificant in the law of averages.

But collectively . . . I’m not so sure. ; )

5. Judson - August 31, 2010

James Earl Ray, Mark David Chapman … not sure what the “M.” in Sirhan M. Sirhan stood for … but it’s amazing how many famous assasins had three names.

— Judson

nrhatch - August 31, 2010

I’ve never heard Sirhan Sirhan called anything but that . . . until now, of course. ; )

Same with David Hinkley, and his unsuccessful attempt.

Maybe it’s like our mothers using our middle names when we misbehaved! : )

Judson - September 1, 2010

LOL … good point. When your Mom hits you wit the middle name, you always knew you’d gone a little too far!

You may be right about Sirhan. I may have inadvertantly started an extremely minor urban legend …

nrhatch - September 1, 2010

Judson 2 History . . . I’m telling your mother on you!

6. cindy - September 1, 2010

Oh my, very interesting.

nrhatch - September 1, 2010

Definitely some interesting parallels.

7. Paula Tohline Calhoun - March 13, 2011

I’m with Nancy – and this particular “urban legend” has been around since 1964 I believe. It started showing up shortly after JFK’s assasination, and resurfaces every so often. The Snopes article is excellent, and while I think it makes a rather weak argument against some of the coincidences, it also corrects some blatant errors – for instance, Marilyn Monroe died a full year before JFK was shot!

It is really an article worth reading. But that doesn’t keep the list from being interesting! 😀

8. spilledinkguy - September 28, 2011

I think my sister (who is a big history buff) shared this with me at one point, too – it’s RiDiCuLoUs, isn’t it?! Almost seems wrong… so bizarre!

nrhatch - September 28, 2011

I love stuff like this . . . the Snopes article sets aside some of the claimed coincidences, but enough remain to make one wonder.

Hmm . . .

9. pix & kardz - March 1, 2012

very interesting – got here via spilledinkguy’s recent post, and saw your comment. Just a little correction, though. Although being a Canadian, and no authority on US history, I suspect that Lincoln was elected to the presidency in 1860, rather than 1960 🙂
the dates are probably not quite so random a coincidence, since the US elections are set at regular four-year intervals.
actually just read the snopes article, so i seem to be repeating what they also said.
And yet it is rather interesting, all the same, how neither Wilkes or Oswald had an opportunity to go to trial because they were both killed themselves. Hmmm indeed!

nrhatch - March 1, 2012

Thanks for catching that typo, Kris. I can’t tell you how many times I read right OVER it.

I agree with you and Snopes, but I find the parallels interesting.

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